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half_nelson

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Edge of the Mat Wrestling
« on: December 11, 2016, 09:38:20 AM »
There have been several matches that I have watched that one guy is obviously wrestling the edge of the mat to avoid a takedown. Why is this stuff not called? It is stalling according to the rule book:
Section 24, ART.3:
... it is stalling in the neutral position when a wrestler:
b. plays the edge of the mat

Also,Sectiion 24 ART.1 states:
each wrestler is required to make an honest attempt to stay within the 10 foot circle and wrestle agressively.

Why is this stuff not called? Seems the book is pretty clear.

cwilson

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Re: Edge of the Mat Wrestling
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2016, 05:30:51 PM »
If it is blatant it should be fleeing.  You can not use the edge to avoid scoring.  If you push or pull somebody out of bounds to avoid scoring that is fleeing, not stalling, by rule.

half_nelson

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Re: Edge of the Mat Wrestling
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2016, 06:34:05 PM »
I guess my point is that if your wrestler is consistly wrestling with his back to the edge at the edge the book says your stalling. It is a simple thing to circle in towards the center.

rexanderson

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Re: Edge of the Mat Wrestling
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2016, 08:51:21 AM »
agreed - using the edge of the mat to avoid wrestling should be called as stalling. Using the edge of the mat to avoid being scored upon should be called as a flee (and possibly a stall, too).

Conway Mannix

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Re: Edge of the Mat Wrestling
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2016, 01:03:07 PM »
When there is moderately aggressive wresting, in the neutral position, near the edge of the mat, I think the wrestler who ends up out-of-bounds rather than circling or pushing back toward the center (by stepping up the aggression) is fleeing the mat.  Too often this is called OOB and nothing else.

First of all he's supposed to be making an honest attempt to stay within the 10-ft circle to avoid a stalling call.  If he allows himself to go out of the 28-ft circle he is guilty of a greater offense than stalling, right?  Granted, after a warning has been issued the stalling penalty is the same as the TV for fleeing.

Sometimes, in this situation, the guy with his back to the center gets hit for forcing his opponent out of the wrestling area.  This should not happen.  He's the aggressor.  He's going toward his opponent.  As long as he's not obviously shoving the guy out, he should be given the benefit of the doubt ...that he's setting something up.  The other guy needs to offer some resistance instead of backing up.

Looking at the feet and determining whether more weight is on the heels or balls of the feet can really be a "tell".
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cwilson

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Re: Edge of the Mat Wrestling
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2017, 09:36:15 AM »
I would like to see the new college stalling on the edge put into high school.  If you back out with no action, your stalling. Of course out of bounds in high school and college are not the same, so wrestling on the edge as it pertains to stalling can't be the same in college and high school

GlenDane

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Re: Edge of the Mat Wrestling
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2017, 09:22:26 PM »
I wish they would change the rule to read like freestyle. If the takedown starts in bounds and finishes out bounds it is still a takedown. Thus taking the edge wrestling out of play.